Ep. #990: Menno Henselmans on Stretch-Mediated Hypertrophy

Mike: Hey there, and welcome to Muscle For Life. I’m Mike Matthews. Thanks for becoming a member of me right now to study a sizzling subject, at the least on the time of this recording, which is stretch mediated hypertrophy, fancy phrases that discuss with the connection between muscle size, mechanical pressure. Muscle development versus simply mechanical pressure and muscle development.

So what some folks say is, for those who can tinker together with your coaching, for those who can tinker with sure workouts to provide extra mechanical pressure, when muscle groups are stretched, when they’re at their most size, you’re going to acquire muscle quicker than for those who did these workouts in a standard method that produces probably the most quantity of mechanical pressure at shorter lengths.

For instance, take into consideration the barbell biceps curl. Little or no pressure when your biceps are stretched out. When. Palms are down at your aspect or proper in entrance of you, and plenty of pressure when your biceps are flexed, when they’re shortened. When you’re on the high of a rep, is that splendid for muscle development or do you have to modify that train or do one other kind of biceps curl that produces a considerable amount of mechanical pressure when your biceps are stretched?

You’re going to get a solution to that query and to comparable questions that you just may ask about different workouts on this podcast. And in case you aren’t accustomed to my visitor, Meno is certainly one of my favourite guys to speak to about actually something and every part associated to well being and health. He has been on my present many instances and he’s a former enterprise guide who determined to comply with his well being and health passions, and now he’s worldwide public speaker and educator, author and revealed scientist.

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Thanks for taking a while outta your night to, to do that. You’re six hours forward or is it extra? 

Menno: It’s at present 10 plus 7:00 PM right here. 

Mike: Okay, so that you’re 5 hours. Cool. However yeah, thanks for taking the time to, to do that. As all the time, I’m wanting ahead to the dialogue, which is stretch, mediated hypertrophy, huge phrases, and individuals are instantly questioning what does that imply and what am I alleged to do with that?

And I believe we should always begin this dialogue actually on the high, as a result of this isn’t one thing I possibly have commented on it tangentially, however I’ve not spoken or written about it in any element. So a good quantity of listers most likely. Have by no means even heard of it. Or if they’ve, they don’t know even what it means.

Not to mention what to do with it. 

Menno: Sure. I believe stretch me it hypertrophy is likely one of the matters that’s at present probably the most promising and one thing that we don’t but totally perceive. We’re getting an increasing number of analysis on it, each mechanistically in addition to when it comes to precise empirical research displaying variations in muscle development.

We’ve got a number of research now that present very compelling variations in muscle development between muscle groups being skilled at totally different lengths or emphasizing totally different lengths and stretch media. DPH is the almost definitely mechanism I’d say, to clarify these findings. Typically, the discovering is that coaching muscle groups at longer lengths, all else being equal, ends in considerably extra muscle development than coaching them as shorter muscle lengths.

And this ties in with vary of movement. Most individuals are conscious that you just typically ought to prepare your workouts by way of a full vary of movement, if safely doable. And we at the moment are principally discovering that the mechanism for that’s primarily stretch media. So which is catch all time period for the processes that designate this discovering, that defined why muscle groups develop extra when they’re extra stretched in comparison with after they’re much less stretched.

So stretch media principally simply means we’re seeing further hypertrophy that’s the results of the muscle being stretched. And I believe we will break that down into two components, that are pan of pressure and a rise in muscle size. And people collectively are, I believe, at present the almost definitely mechanisms for why this appears to be the.

Mike: And may you clarify what these two issues imply? 

Menno: Let me begin with energetic pressure. While you’re coaching a muscle, it produces a certain quantity of pressure, and that’s ruled partly by the size pressure relationship. So a muscle at any size, it has, it might probably produce a certain quantity of pressure. Most muscle groups have an optimum curve, which suggests there’s a sure size, sometimes that’s an anatomical place or near it the place they’re the strongest.

And it’s due to the act my in cross bridges, which is the way it muscle contracts. If you wish to shorten your contractor biceps, it shortens. It’s like pulling the act, Myosin, crossbridges into one another. And he does that in collection, however that’s the how one can visualize it.

And at that size, it, the ec myosin are sort on the splendid distance from one another to kind cross bridges and due to this fact to provide pressure. Whereas if the muscle is just too lengthy, the sine is form of too far aside. And you may even go into passive insufficiency the place the muscle is so lengthy that, that no efficient crossbridge formation can happen anymore.

And you can’t produce any pressure that may happen. For instance, with the hamstrings, if you stretch them each on the knee and the hip maximally, then you might be tremendous, tremendous weak to the purpose that most of the muscle fibers are principally not producing any pressure. Now at that time, energetic pressure could also be very lengthy as a result of the cross base formation is impaired, however passive pressure might be very excessive.

So passive pressure is principally simply the stress from the stretch, like an elastic pan. Should you’re pulling on the muscle and that itself is a type of pressure and it’s much more so if you find yourself additionally performing dynamic. Muscle contractions as a result of particularly through the eccentric part, so when the muscle’s lengthening underneath load, underneath pressure, so like a bicep curl, you’re decreasing the burden, then the tighten filaments, so energetic myosin, the one myofilaments filaments that assist muscle groups contract, there’s additionally, which is kinda arain.

So when it’s lengthening, it’s spring loaded, after which it helps through the subsequent concent contraction when sometimes if you’re elevating the burden or formally when the muscle is shortening. So it’s like your muscle groups have some spring hundreds in them that if you’re decreasing the burden, they’re being spring loaded.

After which if you find yourself lifting the weights, they assist generate pressure. Now, expansive pressure can be mechanical pressure, and the first mechanism of how a muscle grows is it’s, it responds to pressure on the muscle and that’s the major sign for it to adapt in construction. And one of many major variations is that it will get greater and it might probably get greater in two methods.

It could actually get greater by the addition of SARMs in parallel, which is principally muscle thickens. So that you’re simply, including extra layers of muscle fibers or mys SARMs are basically the unit across the my filaments. You’re simply stacking extra on high of them and that’s why muscle will get thicker, which is how most muscle development happens.

However it’s also possible to stack extra sharp mirrors in collection so behind one another, and that’s how a muscle can lengthy get longer. You truly improve the muscle fac muscle PA was a bundle of muscle fibers. You may truly make the entire bundle longer, truly get an extended muscle, which is often extra related to flexibility coaching, which it’s also possible to do it by coaching muscle groups at lengthy lengths, and particularly with eccentric muscle contractions.

Overfil raised motions and that additionally contributes to muscle development. Yeah, these are the 2 major pathways, I’d say, the place by which the stretch of a muscle can truly make it greater. And we now even have research, together with from this yr. So most of this analysis is kind of new, that present that simply static stretching, we now have fairly compelling proof that simply static stretching can straight trigger muscle development with none energetic doable contraction.

Now you want fairly heinous protocols to realize this. It’s not like your typical yoga session is gonna lower it. In actual fact, most research use an or I believe it’s known as, the place you might be principally placing the muscle on the calves. You place the ankle in a brace, after which if you simply can tolerate the stretch, it’s pulls up the foot somewhat bit extra.

After which after such as you’re accustomed to Oh, okay, now I believe it might probably go I’m getting a bit extra relaxed. It’s like somewhat bit extra. After which they do this for lengthy intervals of time. And you then see okay, you possibly can truly put sufficient seemingly passive pressure on the muscle to. Make it greater, or 

Mike: you possibly can do some cal phrases, however

However the mechanism is attention-grabbing and clearly contributes to this understanding of the significance of passive pressure, that time of muscle size is attention-grabbing to me as a result of I distinctly bear in mind studying some analysis this was years in the past that indicated that muscle groups couldn’t get longer, may solely get greater.

In order that I misunderstand one thing or has the understanding of that time advanced over the past 5 years 

Menno: or so? The factor is, it’s unclear. To what extent you possibly can meaningfully study from a muscle, particularly within the skilled particular person. It’s not disputed. 

Mike: And simply to present context, this was within the context of, I, I bear in mind the explanation why I used to be referring to a few of that analysis helps folks perceive muscle insertions, proper?

So consider a bicep and the way the insertion impacts the height and what number of fingers can you set between, your flex bicep and your forearm. And that provides you an concept of your insertions. And my sort of takeaway, I used to be giving folks with the context of you possibly can’t meaningfully lengthen that’s, you simply want to know that there are some issues about how your muscle groups kind that you just actually can’t change all that meaningfully, however you can also make your biceps greater, that’s gonna assist with peak, blah, blah, blah.

Menno: Sure. So that you’re completely proper. A muscle is mounted between the origin and the insert. And, the bones and tendons are fairly mounted in place. For, possibly you possibly can additionally study from the tendons, however sooner or later that is just like the house you may have. After which for those who make the muscle even longer, it turns into like a flap of ineffective tissue.

So it wouldn’t be helpful anymore to contract. 

Mike: Some folks although, they’d attain out and so they’d be like I’ve, two nearly three, proper? And they also’re like possibly I can flip that to 1. And That’ll look cooler. I 

Menno: imply it, it might solely be practical as much as a sure level to get longer.

So the physique solely does it as much as a sure level. Yeah like I stated, it might be, it might begin drooping down or one thing as a result of there’s no extra space. So yeah, you possibly can solely lengthen the muscle as much as a sure level and that additionally places an enormous damper, I believe, on the utility of simply going for the stretch, like simply stretching for muscle hypertrophy and simply had a put up on Instagram, for instance, the place I stated Look, most stretching protocols, they don’t do something to your muscle life.

Which is true. However sure, these, a few of these excessive protocols in a number of research have been discovered to truly lengthen the muscle. Even when you are able to do that, it’s very questionable for those who truly need to implement that when it comes to muscle hypertrophy program design, as a result of for one, it’s also possible to do it to your workouts and possibly far more effectively.

And two, it’s most likely largely gonna be related for novis Chinese language. That’s additionally the stretching between units and all these items. I’m very skeptical of any. Actual utility of that and skilled people. In actual fact, the final research we have now by, I believe Wadi Atal from 2000 this yr, I believe from this yr 22, they have been the primary to have a look at this impact of simply stretching between sans inter stretching.

They did cable flies stretching in between a cable machine in between units of bench disaster. And though they have been clearly doing much more work since you’re additionally doing kinda a wave stretch and for most individuals that’s not gonna be fully passive. They didn’t develop extra. There have been no will increase in energy beneficial properties or muscle development in comparison with simply doing the bench pricing.

Mike: And was it an extended 

Menno: sufficient research? Yeah, I believe it was a very good research total. Much like the opposite research the place we do see development and that’s, or will increase in muscle size. And I believe two huge components are, the opposite research are untrained people. And secondly, they’re nearly all, I believe actually all of them contain the caps.

And the caps are, Semi-unique as a muscle in that they’re bi articulate and might attain very lengthy lengths. So the gastro anemia is particularly of the calves, it crosses the knee and the ankle, which suggests you possibly can lengthen it at two locations on the identical time. And you may truly go into passive insufficiency like I simply talked about.

You can also make the muscle so lengthy that it might probably basically not generate any pressure anymore. And the gastros of the calves is uniquely simple to get into passive insufficiency. So its muscle size is definitely a limiting issue for stretching and the like. Now most muscle groups, just like the packs within the research by physique grownup most likely, they don’t actually attain that size the place the passive pressure from purely a stretch is basically going to be that efficient.

I believe for most individuals to get adequate passive pressure, you’re gonna need to rely extra on the spring loading of Titan versus like purely simply placing passive pressure on it and thereby making it considerably greater. 

Mike: Let’s speak about vary of movement, proper? So I did an interview with Mike is Rael on vary of movement and when typically it would make sense to strive some partial vary of movement with sure workouts.

And he talked about stretch media hypertrophy and I made a psychological observe. I ought to do an in depth, interview on that time particularly. And so when folks hear that, it might appear that probably the most. Efficient parts of workouts are the parts the place the muscle groups lengthened and underneath pressure. And that is, as a part of the dialogue.

There are then folks saying, then with sure workouts, particularly a few of these individuals who do wacky issues on Instagram, like that’s a part of their shtick is modifying workouts in unusual methods to get eyeballs and saying, Hey, with this train even some folks, I’ve seen folks say this with a biceps curl saying, truly simply stopping proper right here, that’s gonna be simpler.

So all you’re doing is that totally lengthened to partially lengthened. You may skip the highest a part of the rep. What are your ideas on, there’s that instance and there are a lot of different examples of explicitly modifying coaching to attempt to rack up extra time underneath lengthened pressure, so to talk. 

Menno: I believe it’s not a loopy concept.

And I do suppose that many of the advantages we’ve seen with forensic movement coaching are attributable largely to stretch media. And there’s truly a metaanalysis that I do know is popping out quickly. It’s not printed but to my information on the time. This recording basically additionally present that many of the advantages, for those who take a look at examine research, the place they’re doing totally different vary of movement, they primarily discover the advantages one, one group, the longer or the complete increase movement group.

It’s nearly not often truly full increase movement. It’s just like the longer vary of movement additionally reaches increased muscle lengths and it’s not essentially the identical, proper? You may have the identical increase of movement or longer increase movement, however not attain an extended size. It’s solely sometimes if you go like deeper throughout a squat.

That’s fairly properly established now that for those who go deeper throughout squat, you get higher beneficial properties and new metanalysis. Fairly comparatively clearly reveals that almost all of those advantages are attributable to the longer muscle lengths. I believe that makes good sense. We truly even have two very cool research that illustrate this one research, I believe, which was a gap to the floodgate of analysis on this.

They, I believe it’s Mao Atal, or I don’t know easy methods to pronounce it. They in contrast seated la curl to mendacity la Curl, and the seated la curl resulted in considerably extra muscle development, particularly within the bi articulate heads of the hamstrings, that are the heads which are extra stretched, extra lengthens if you find yourself seated since you are flexing on the hip.

So for those who consider such as you’re sitting in a seated LA curl, what you possibly can truly do is you possibly can lean approach ahead and you then’ll really feel the stretch for one. And so that you’ll additionally change into rather a lot weaker. You may. Going to passive insufficiency. Even when the machine is relying on the scale of the machine, for those who can actually straighten the legs and lean approach ahead, and also you’ll see you’re tremendous weak that approach, however you then most likely get excessive passive pressure.

Now how a lot will we need to act on that versus energetic pressure? I believe it’s undoubtedly doable to go overboard as a result of for one, we don’t know the way a lot passive pressure issues, how a lot is sufficient. You may simply maximize it by simply coaching for a full traces of movement, for instance. So I believe it’s untimely to financial institution on the stretch as the one factor we should always take note of.

Remind me after, is to come back again to the purpose of regional activation. However first I ought to talk about the opposite research I discussed. It’s most likely probably the most compelling proof in favor of the concept that we actually simply needs to be banking on the stretch. That’s a brand new research by Pedroso this. Or final yr, I believe it’s this yr, they regarded like leg extensions over 4 movement solely.

The highest and solely the underside and full movement did as many different analysis have already discovered 4. Movement is significantly higher than simply the highest, nevertheless it didn’t do higher than simply the underside. In actual fact, simply the underside lead to extra muscle development. Now, I believe on this specific research, there are some things.

They didn’t prepare maximally. The leg extension machine additionally wasn’t going by way of flows of movement, and so they skilled with a sluggish cadence. So it’s doable that if you’re extra, you’re coaching extra hardcore settings, basically. They usually have been untrained in individuals. Ladies. It’s doable that for those who’re coaching extra harsh core and actually maximizing full movement coaching going near failure, that you just’re already maximizing the stretch media hypertrophy.

Anyway, for those who’re, you possibly can. Flex the legs sufficient, which most individuals undoubtedly don’t do. In order that’s, implication primary, throughout leg extensions, you need to get the, you need to get your legs as caught as a lot as doable to actually get that good stretch. However then for those who do this, I’m fairly skeptical of the thought that you would be able to truly get higher outcomes by solely doing the underside half.

And it’ll additionally rely on the machine. Some leg extension machines are actually dangerous. They’re like, solely the highest half is clearly the sticking factors. After which you possibly can do 1,000,000 extra reps within the backside proper. While you’re, you possibly can’t do, you possibly can’t lock out the knee anymore. You don’t wanna lock out the knee shut.

I’d typically say, 

Mike: yeah, it might probably matter rather a lot. The machine can matter rather a lot, sadly. That’s a simply price noting for folks cuz in the event that they’re in a health club with a janky machine, they may be shocked to listen to that, Oh, that’s a very good machine. Like a few of them will not be so nice and the mendacity may be a greater possibility if this seated is simply not arrange appropriately.

Menno: Yeah, and it’s attention-grabbing you talked about mendacity, the. Mendacity leg extensions have fallen outta favor, however truly by digital stretch media, their pery are most likely a lot better than the present seat without delay. And what I sometimes advocate is that folks place their sheets as far again, the again, way back to they’ll, after which matrix model, lean all the way in which again since you are lengthening the recs for Morris, the center head of the quads.

And also you’ll discover you’re stronger if you lean again a bit. Now for those who’re totally mendacity again, it’s it’s gonna be uncomfortable for some folks. However simply leaning again or reclining in your seats, even in case you have a straight again rests you, your decrease again gained’t be towards the again rests. It’s positive. It’s the again’s not doing something anyway.

It’s simply quads. You’re somewhat extra weight for one. Extra weight, all else. Being equal means extra pressure on muscle means higher development sometimes, and particularly directs. For Morris, the center head of the quads ought to develop extra from additionally higher passive pressure. 

Mike: I discover that feels higher on my knees too.

Than being extra 

Menno: upright. Yeah. There’s an optimum trigger for me, if I’m going, if I actually line up, then it doesn’t really feel so good on my knees anymore, possibly. However you possibly can’t do this anyway in most machines. Yeah, 

Mike: precisely. You’re gonna need to invent that’ll need to be the ME extension machine.

Menno: A number of the old style machines are like that, however you don’t see them anymore. Okay. I don’t 

Mike: know if I’ve ever seen that 

Menno: truly. And regional activation. So the arguments towards the ID that, let’s simply do the stretch. Let’s do all our coaching in most stretch, simply on that and really two arguments.

The primary is that you could be software program extreme, so the stimulus to fatigue ratio at some factors down. For instance, hit thrusts are an train that most likely gained’t lead to a lot stretch media atrophy. I’m truly gonna collaborate on a research very quickly that CO and squats face to face, in order that’s going be very attention-grabbing.

However, Till have that information it’s unlikely that the press stimulate plenty of stretch media trophy cuz they don’t lengthen a lot, however they stimulate plenty of energetic pressure, just about nearly as good because it will get. So simply to financial institution on the passive pressure and stretch media, I believe won’t be splendid. And even whether it is, you might be gonna most likely do plenty of muscle injury.

So you may additionally restrict how a lot cash units you are able to do. After which the query is, okay, is it actually that a lot better that you need to sacrifice your complete quantity tolerance for the flexibility to, actually hammer down that stretch? The one argument 

Mike: with the work there may be for those who may do. Considerably much less quantity, possibly even for a similar outcomes than folks may say.

It’s extra time environment friendly, 

Menno: and I do suppose for those who can solely do some work, it is best to undoubtedly goal for a full run movement and possibly emphasizing the stretch. If you are able to do one set of packs, for instance, you may have time for one set, you higher do an train the place it’s also possible to actually get a very good stretch.

So I’d most likely truly not do a bench press for instance. I’d do one thing like a deficit pushup, ring pushup, or a 15 diploma incline, double bench press. One thing that the place you possibly can, and even affected person fly like cable fly, the place you possibly can actually get excessive consideration and stretch as properly. The second argument towards the ID that simply the stretch is what issues is regional activation.

And there may be considerably of a development within the analysis that if you find yourself coaching muscle groups at longer lengths, you’re additionally rising them at longer lengths or distally particularly. So squats for instance, it appears that evidently a full squats lead to extra development particularly or primarily close to the. And that’s very attention-grabbing.

And we additionally see analysis that coaching muscle groups are totally different lengths. Partially due to the size pressure relationship, like a special size, totally different muscle fibers are extra energetic than others. Additionally as a result of not all muscle fibers run alongside all the muscle fac and totally different muscle FACS and fibers even have barely totally different size pressure relationships.

So at totally different muscle lengths, you might be activating totally different or preferentially activating totally different muscle fibers. And it’s fairly doable that even when it’s only some fibers and like on common you acquire extra from emphasizing the stretch, there are some muscle fibers that do truly develop higher from emphasizing peak contraction.

So I believe it’s extra a query of ratio, like the place you’re gonna dedicate most of your coaching. And on the whole, I’d say you possibly can’t go very unsuitable with flooring of movement coaching, particularly if that additionally means full muscle size tour, then attempting. Will you financial institution on the stretch completely? 

Mike: And a 3rd argument that, or at the least some extent that needs to be famous is full vary of movement coaching works very well for everybody and for nearly each function.

Yeah. So that you take a look at, no matter your aim, even when your aim is to get as jacked as doable, full vary of movement coaching is gonna get you at the least many of the approach there. However many individuals listening and plenty of. On the market, simply within the health house, will not be essentially attempting to achieve each final ounce of muscle and energy genetically obtainable to ’em.

They’re simply attempting to get into actually fine condition and keep that approach. And, possibly with three to 5 hours of coaching per week, and I’m simply mentioning that as a result of I’ve to remind typically individuals who attain out to me asking about extra refined strategies or at the least theories like these when, possibly they’re of their second yr of coaching and so they’re making progress and every part goes simply positive.

And so typically, I simply need to remind folks, let’s not make this unnecessarily advanced. Let’s not overthink this to your targets you may not ever have. Make any of these kinds of modifications to your coaching. Should you simply need to for enjoyable to see what occurs, that’s positive, however simply perceive that you just’re making good progress.

I promise you it’s not going to alter in any significant quantity by including some relaxation pause coaching or partial vary of most coaching or another sort of refined approach. Sure, you will get huge 

Menno: on the fundamentals. 

Mike: Hey there, if you’re listening to this, you might be nonetheless listening, which is superior. Thanks.

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So then I believe that’s a very good segue to my subsequent query, which is are there sure workouts that you just suppose, once more, talking extra to, let’s say we’re not chatting with the pure bodybuilder who has already gained, just like the dude who has gained 45 kilos of muscle and he’s simply attempting to squeeze out these previous few kilos, however extra of a possibly on a regular basis sort of health one who’s simply attempting to proceed getting stronger and proceed gaining measurement and are there possibly some modifications to workouts which are price contemplating, at the least to attempt to see how your physique responds?

Like possibly you’ve all the time been doing an train a sure approach. Perhaps for those who tried it this manner and also you may discover, Oh wow, I’m truly, noticeably possibly extra sore from doing it that approach, or I’m getting a extremely good pump from doing it that approach, or some form of indicator that you just’ve made the train somewhat bit simpler.

Menno: I wouldn’t put an excessive amount of speaking to these indicators particularly, however there are undoubtedly plenty of. Workout routines that you would be able to tweak by and make at the least as efficient or most likely simpler, which additionally will increase time effectivity, 

Mike: just like the leaning again on the leg. S that’s a very good tip that someone can suppose with.

Menno: Precisely. In order that’s an instance the place I believe it’s win-win you, you possibly can’t actually go unsuitable with it. We don’t have concrete analysis but displaying it truly improves muscle development, nevertheless it’s extraordinarily unlikely that it’s going to lower it and there’s basically no draw back. One other instance can be lapras, which is an train I cash is principally a full vary of movement, straight arm pull down.

For some cause, straight arm pulldowns have historically all the time been completed as much as 90 levels and you then go down. There’s no cause to cease there. Like you possibly can go all the way in which up. The one drawback I assume for some folks is that for those who’re simply standing upright, you then don’t get plenty of pressure if you go all the way in which up.

Now the answer for that’s that you just lean ahead. That’s humorous. That’s 

Mike: how I’ve all the time completed that train. However I all the time thought that was like the way in which that you just did it, 

Menno: . Yeah. There fairly some people who find themselves like oh, I ought to, I simply, that is the higher technique to do it. I don’t suppose anybody’s coined the title otherwise although, and particularly with the an idea of the lab prior is that you just’re leaning into it as you get to get a full stretch and also you’re leaning again once more.

So you need to transfer the tors backwards and forwards through the train. And for those who, I known as it a lab since you, if you’re in your knees, that rhythmic movement together with your arms up and down kinda seems like a prayer. So being in your knees helps to remain put if you’re utilizing actually heavy weights. Now most individuals truly can do the train standing very properly, however if you get to actually heavy weights than seating helps.

I believe that’s additionally an instance the place it’s simply higher. Such as you’re simply doing the identical train however over full traces movement and particularly including the ranges of movement that’s prone to induce stretch media trophy. So it’s a very powerful a part of the ranged movement that folks have been omitting. And one other instance can be like, we have now plenty of cool research on this now.

I believe current research additionally from this yr, like plenty of this analysis is basically new. They in contrast basically push downs for total tricep extensions in very comparable I believe you used machines in order that the train was total like all the identical. It was like double versus cable stuff. Not 100% certain on that.

However I believe it was properly managed and so they discovered that the overhead tricep extension resulted in not simply extra muscle development within the lengthy finish of the triceps, which is strictly what I’d’ve predicted. And the researchers additionally thought primarily based on this precisely every part we’ve been speaking about media, the of the triceps is a muscle, it’s additionally energetic shoulder like triceps.

And so for those who convey the arm overhead, the elbow overhead, and also you’re stretching the, and I’ve seen some folks say the triceps can’t expertise media. I wouldn’t know why that, why they couldn’t. That’s very speculative. At this level, I don’t see any cause, like we’ve seen media hypertrophy in muscle groups now.

I don’t see a why the tricep wouldn’t be to certainly that the mortgage expertise is graduate development. Curiously, the opposite heads additionally grew extra. And why that’s, I gained’t be capable to inform you. I don’t suppose anyone at present can inform you that. However it might need one thing to do with Yeah, no it’s just about a thriller , 

Mike: however the takeaway is it’s a very good train.

Menno: Do it. Precisely. And at a minimal, I’d suppose we will replicate that. The lengthy advertisements will get extra development. Perhaps the opposite advertisements additionally get extra development. That’s much more of a win. However I believe most individuals don’t optimize that a part of tricep coaching. And on the whole, most individuals don’t actually optimize this a part of emphasizing the stretch.

They do workouts that have been, which are conventional that most individuals do. And for the tricep you may have push downs. After which all of the tricep coaching they do is in, on this airplane. So like push downs, college crushers have some stretch. However you, I believe for the lengthy, you need to go just about to get like a extremely good stretch.

Yeah. Should you’re not doing that, you’re most likely leaving some beneficial properties on the desk. In actual fact, in that case, I believe the extra SAR ERs in collection, simply making the muscle longer can truly make an enormous distinction. As a result of for those who by no means prepare the triceps at full lengths, most likely the muscle groups not gonna size to its full size.

And that leaves a substantial quantity of development on the desk. In all probability. Trigger if for those who consider the muscle as this after which you can also make it tremendous thick, however now you can also make all of that thickness additionally. And that will increase the overall muscle measurement fairly considerably, even when the overall improve of muscle an is barely 10% or so.

Yeah. And that may 

Mike: have an enormous impact on simply the visible measurement of your arms. Triceps, what, two-thirds of 

Menno: Sure. And in addition it makes it replenish the gap between the origin and the assertion extra, which might visually possibly even make a much bigger distinction. Like what you stated, in case you have huge gaps between the muscle groups and the joints, then it’s doable that may assist replenish that hole at the least somewhat bit.


Mike: Yeah. I personally have all the time preferred overhead dumbbell extensions, comparable kind of idea. I’ve simply discovered them to be, particularly with heavier weights, I’ve discovered that extra snug, simply been in a position to carry out higher than attempting to go heavy on the overhead, like a, an overhead rope, for instance.

Now you talked about basian flies or curls, one of many, Might you simply clarify what each of these are? 

Menno: Yeah, so these are two different workouts that I coined, and so they’re simply modifications of very fashionable workouts. The most typical kind of double curl by far, I believe is the double curl and in any other case the barb curl.

And what train particularly doesn’t do, identical to the straight arm pull down, is prepare the muscle properly at lengthy lengths. In actual fact, when the doble or the garble is at your aspect, just like the arms are vertically completed, there isn’t any pressure on the biceps, which might be a very powerful place for the biceps particularly as a result of the size pressure relationship of the biceps is in order that in like different muscle groups, it’s truly strongest not simply in passive pressure, but in addition in energetic pressure when the biceps is stretched.

So that you’re lacking not simply passive pressure, but in addition energetic pressure on the biceps. Now you possibly can treatment that with both one thing like a preacher curl, and I believe that’s going to be efficient. However the preacher curl sometimes neglects the highest half very a lot. And in addition it may be fairly arduous on the elbows and the muscle injury might be fairly extreme.

So what I sometimes do is a bas curl, which is a cable curl. And when most individuals do a cable curl, they take a look at the cable, like they, they stand on the cable. The cable, that is the cable station. They decide it up and so they’re like curling like this. However then you may have the very same situation. So for those who look the opposite approach so that you just’re placing the cable from behind after which doing the curl, you then do emphasize that transposition and also you get good pressure all through all the his movement.

So that you’re not sacrificing the highest half and also you’re getting good pressure within the legitimate place. After which it’s also possible to the laps rhythmically transfer the higher physique the place you’re totally upright to getting a very good stretch after which kinda leaning into it to get good peak traction as properly. And also you don’t need to overdo it, you simply need to intuitively go by.

Do you are feeling good pressure on the backside? Do you are feeling good pressure on the high? If not, modify your physique place barely, identical to with laps to just be sure you do. I don’t see any doable downsides of that kind of cable curl Eva curl in comparison with a double curl and plenty of potential upsides. I 

Mike: like additionally that you would be able to get a very good coaching stimulus with much less weight, so it’s simply simpler in your joints in comparison with say, a barbell curl, which isn’t a nasty train, however if you get stronger, I don’t know if I’ve ever gone over 1 55, however that’s rather a lot.

I imply that’s arduous on the elbows. Whereas I’m not as sturdy now as after I was Barb curling 1 55, however I’m nonetheless pretty sturdy and I used to be doing, I believe I’ve seen them behind, behind the again. Cable curls. You need folks listening, you may be capable to discover that train underneath that title too. So I used to be doing, I’ve these in my coaching block and I’ve to, I’d have to drag up my spreadsheet, however I believe I’m solely utilizing, proper now, I’m doing units of eight to 10 and I believe I’m solely utilizing 35 kilos.

Not more than 40 kilos. And it’s good it’s joint pleasant and it’s tough. Yeah. You 

Menno: can even discover, trigger I’ve tremendous delicate elbows, like I’ve very slim wrists and ankles for for a six, one man. And with a cable, it’s good that you would be able to a double may be very free, so it’s already fairly good in comparison with a, may be very mounted movement trajectory.

However with the cable, you not simply decide vertically how you progress up the burden, however in, in each doable path, you possibly can transfer the cable extra out to the aspect. In actual fact, I usually stand like at a slight offset, so I’m kinda curling like this as an alternative of curling like this. And I discover that my elbows like that rather a lot higher and it doesn’t make any distinction for the effectiveness of the bicep.

So yeah, you may have plenty of extra leeway as properly when it comes to which motion sample matches your physique construction the 

Mike: greatest? Yeah, I discover, I prefer to get right into a place simply that, cuz typically my shoulders will simply get somewhat bit irritated, kinda within the bicipital groove. And so how I place after I’m doing workouts typically makes a distinction.

And so it’s additionally good only for that time the place I can get myself right into a place the place I’m probably not feeling it in my shoulder and I can do it with out being irritated, . 

Menno: Yeah, undoubtedly. And I believe the aspect angle additionally will help with the shoulder. 

Mike: Yeah, that is sensible. Now you talked about additionally flies, ba flies.

How does 

Menno: that work? Yeah, so a double fly is definitely a very good train when it comes to stimulating stretch media trophy, and I most likely underrated it sooner or later, nevertheless it’s additionally fairly injurious as a result of it actually bangs on the stretch and it additionally enforces or it incentivizes a give crew model motion as a result of in any other case you need to kinda tuck your elbows into it.

Clear most bench pressers and stuff to do this. However many individuals don’t. And the shoulder is in a fairly precarious place when it’s in a full stretch. Basically, most joints are in a precarious place at an rays of movement, in order that place can be by far the toughest. After which you may have nearly no resistance on the high.

I believe it’s, that’s truly an instance of an train that banks an excessive amount of on the. Whereas with that cable, you possibly can unfold out the resistance somewhat bit extra and get a bit extra of a good resistance curve in order that the complete contraction nonetheless truly has a contraction on the packs fairly. Trigger usually with a, if the, your arm like this, then there’s no extra pressure on the packs.

Trigger the packs go this manner and the resistance goes this manner. Whereas with a cable, the resistance goes like in kinda this manner. Yeah, it’s all the time pulling on you. Precisely. So you possibly can nonetheless emphasize the stretch relying on the way you place the cable and, however you possibly can nonetheless additionally stimulate the highest place and it’s a lot joint development 

Mike: layer.

And is that one thing that you just’d be doing? Would you convey a bench over or do you love to do it standing or another? 

Menno: There are a number of methods you are able to do it. Usually, in case you have two of these cable towers which are very far aside, the place all rows are all the time doing their like diagonal crossovers, 

Mike: for those who can ever get 

Menno: in there.

Yeah. So we will, for those who can ever get in there between you guys doing the crossovers the place they’re solely coaching the underside packs, as a result of they’re lifting a lot weight, they’ll barely they’re simply doing it like this. You sound jealous, , then you possibly can simply place the cable. I’d say sometimes about nipple top, possibly one, I run nipple top sometimes works properly.

You don’t need it to be like a full guillotine like this, so that you need the elbows barely tucked down, not 90 levels shoulder discount, and you then wrap the each finish of the cable, you step ahead and relying on how ahead you step, it additionally determines whether or not you emphasize the. P contraction or the stretch.

Should you step very far ahead, you then’re gonna stimulate the stretch board. And if you’re solely somewhat bit ahead, you then stimulate the p contraction board. So additionally relying on how properly your shoulders tolerates the stretch place, it’s also possible to manipulate that, which I believe is sweet. Lots of people, our shoulder points, one of the widespread accidents for all weights.

After which yet one more modification of the affected person flies is that in case your shoulders are proud of it, as an alternative of getting a impartial grip like this, you employ an internally rotated shoulder. So that you simply, like with a bench press, on the finish of a bench press you possibly can see like all of your knuckles in line like this.

Whereas with a cable fly, most individuals, due to the, they don’t actually give it some thought. It’s simply how the cable, 

Mike: it’s simply how the handles, you simply are naturally precisely 

Menno: The construction of the deal with. However it’s also possible to tilt it. In actual fact, you possibly can even simply eliminate the deal with or use a row or no matter.

You may inly, rotate that shoulder. And for those who take a look at the fibers of the packs, if you’re. Should you’re thumb up like this, then these fibers need to run over and so they’re going from right here to right here, which isn’t a direct line of pull. Now there’s a precept that the physique sometimes recruits the fibers which have probably the most advantageous leverage for the train.

Now that is, this will likely not matter if you’re coaching near failure anyway, however I believe it may be useful at the least to internally rotate shoulder, and that’s what it does. So your hand shouldn’t be like this. It aligns the fibers straight with the motion, which ought to end result within the physique emphasizing the peck fibers and also you being barely stronger.

Mike: And since we’re speaking flies what are your ideas on the bottom place? The very best place? Some folks will say, Oh, you have to be doing all three positions. You need to have that, You need to have a few of your quantity in that center nipple vary, however you then must also at the least alternate between that and a low or a excessive.

Menno: In order that’s an analogous subject as whether or not it is best to do incline in decline urgent, or simply horizontal urgent. And analysis sometimes finds that as a result of construction of the packs. Should you’re doing a horizontal kind press or fly, you then’re recruiting all of the fibers, like all of the fibers sort converge in the direction of the center.

And for those who’re doing horizontal flexion or abduction. So bringing the elbow nearer to the physique, principally, whether or not it’s a fly, a double bench press, again deck, something you’re recruiting just about all the arsenal of muscle fibers as a result of they’re all like a fan. Bringing the elbow nearer to the physique for those who’re utilizing an incline.

So the higher fibers of the packs, additionally they prolong, they create the elbow up, so that they’re flexing the shoulder and the decrease fibers, they assist the LA and so they prolong the shoulder. They bring about the elbow down, which is why throughout a pull down you possibly can truly stimulate some decrease pack fibers. And through a pullover, and with like aase, you additionally stimulate the higher packs to some extent.

Should you’re already recruiting all of the fibers with horizontal motion sample, then that doesn’t go away plenty of room to optimize above that, enhance upon that. And that’s sometimes what we see. So what occurs, at the least primarily based on EMG analysis like electromyography, we see that muscle exercise does probably not improve or solely marginally will increase for those who’re doing like extra on incline kind fly or CREs within the higher fibers.

So that you’re not truly coaching the higher fibers far more it. There was a current research in bodybuilders, which discovered that it doesn’t barely improve their muscle exercise, however primarily what it does, it simply decreases the exercise of the decrease backs. And for those who do a decline kind press or fly, then it’s not just like the decrease fibers prompts significantly extra.

It’s primarily that the higher fibers activate significantly much less. So that you’re probably not bettering the muscle development for the goal musculature, you’re simply making it extra remoted. Now, that may have a spot in, those who have an imbalance between Europe are on decrease packs, however for many functions, in case you have steadiness improvement, time effectivity on the simply the horizontal motion sample covers just about all of your bases.

After which I believe the switching of the angles on the, like incline decline is gonna, yeah, have little or no utility for the, like the trouble to reward ratio is gonna be fairly poor, additionally 

Mike: pointless complexity. Yeah, precisely. One other train right here. The cranium over. You wanna speak about 

Menno: Yeah.

Faculty overs are an train that even my purchasers nonetheless confused for cranium pressures. I ought to have chosen a special title for that. Mike Rip is an analogous train, which he known as the PGR pullover, nevertheless it’s fairly totally different, It’s totally different than its nuance, which has an enormous distinction in sensible utility.

So throughout a faculty crusher, such as you’re doing a normal college crusher and also you’re decreasing the burden in your cranium, which is why it’s known as college crusher. Should you would drop the burden, it might fall in your cranium and crush your cranium. makes it, offers it a cool title and kinda makes it widespread.

Nevertheless, most individuals don’t crush their skulls after they’re doing it. They’re crushing their elbows, so you possibly can additionally name them elbow crushers as a result of many individuals, like for some individuals are positive after all. After which, in case you have no points in any respect going heavy on these, it may be a positive train. However for many individuals which have at the least considerably delicate elbows, they actually wreck havoc on the elbow joints.

For me as properly, on the tendons it’s actually nasty. So you possibly can truly change the train even just a bit bit by letting the elbow come up over the physique so that you just’re actually transferring the burden over the cranium fairly than on the cranium. So a cranium over fairly than a cranium crush. And now you might be each stimulating extra stretch media atrophy since you’re lengthening the lengthy head of the triceps extra.

And it’s a lot, a lot simpler on the elbow joint particularly as a result of that, like I stated, most joints are extra delicate for to harm at endra movement. And the height pressure within the cranium crusher is strictly within the full stretch. So at endra movement and with a cranium over, you distribute the stress somewhat bit extra in the direction of the center a part of the motion being the toughest.

And you then kinda throw the burden over your head, again as much as full extension. So it’s only a cranium crusher. However you’re letting the weights, you’re letting elbows come up so the burden can go over your head as an alternative of dropping in your head 

Mike: cranium brusher possibly. 

Menno: Yeah. Really, that, that will be a very good title in a way that it is best to, it has to go actually shut over the cranium and many individuals, since you don’t need the elbow to come back you, you don’t need the forearm to be vertical within the backside place as a result of then there’s no extra.

Within the stretch place, which is the place you need excessive. So you might want to let the burden come actually shut over the cranium. And I believe for most individuals, truly it really works properly to do it on the sting of a bench so as to transfer your head up so as to actually let the burden go over the pinnacle. So that you’re sort transferring the pinnacle outta the way in which fairly than the, And that sometimes requires some teaching and financing and experimentation, however then if you get the groove down, it truly works very well.

It feels good on the elbows, most likely internet you extra stretch media atrophy. So I’d say that’s additionally an instance the place I just about solely use college over as an alternative of college crushers with my purchasers. How 

Mike: low are you bringing the bar? Like How far beneath 

Menno: it sometimes goes? Yeah slightly below the pinnacle.

Yeah. However it relies upon somewhat bit on somebody’s particular person construction. Such as you need full elbow flexion, so that you need the elbow angle to completely shut and also you don’t need to have that happen when the forearm is totally vertical for some folks. For the elbows it’s, that’s the elbows pleasant, most elbow pleasant.

However for most individuals you need somewhat bit extra of an angle. Makes 

Mike: sense. Are there another workouts that, or another modifications that we should always cowl earlier than this final level? 

Menno: There are plenty of workouts that may be modified to some extent and I believe you all the time need to ask your self, can I improve vary of movement?

So one for instance, tip that Bradon alerted me to who received it interned from a feminine influencer, if not mistaken, however I dunno her title. She principally got here up with the concept that in a hip abduction machine you possibly can places to the perimeters of the. The machine so that you’re getting the legs nearer collectively.

Trigger most hip manufacturing machines when your legs, you open the legs they kinda cease when the legs are kinda according to one another parallel. And that’s not full stretch. And also you additionally really feel it, it’s undoubtedly not a full stretch. So for those who put pads on the perimeters, then you possibly can truly convey the legs, so pads on the, of the on the knees.

Then you will get the knees all the way in which totally touching one another. You will get a a lot better stretch and get higher raised movement. That’s most likely additionally a pure state of affairs. Now, it’s not tremendous sensible. You want pads which are excellent sized. After which some machines, like if the pads too huge, you possibly can’t can’t, the weights within the cable.

So it’s not tremendous sensible. However there are plenty of these workouts the place you simply all the time ask your self, Hey, can I improve movement of this train? Or hip abs on a bench? Most individuals cease with when the, or like hip abduction, primarily related for feminine Chinese language. They need most booty acquire and in addition skilled glu medias.

Should you’re mendacity and also you’re doing a abduction, then the ground limits how low your lack can go. However that’s not full vary of movement. Your toes can dip under your hips, in order that’s what you need. And for those who’re mendacity on a bench, then there isn’t any, so the meals can dip under the hips. So the man would coach these.

Know, and easy methods to train my college students to do them, to let the meals come under, Do it on a bench, get higher ranged. Revenue . Query mark. 

Mike: Query mark. Revenue . Have you ever with dumbbell urgent have you ever rotated your hand? Simply folks listening so you possibly can see this. So palms are dealing with one another on the way in which down.

So on the backside, as an alternative of palms dealing with a approach like a elevate, folks listening, consider a barbell bench press the place you simply hold that place. With dumbbells although, you possibly can rotate on the backside, palms dealing with and get somewhat bit extra of a stretch. Ideas on utility of that?


Yeah. So the place of the wrist itself doesn’t decide something for the packs. 

Mike: It’s simply the shoulder friendliness of. 

Menno: Yeah. So in idea you possibly can even do supernate grip, and it’s the elbow place that determines what occurs to the shoulder and the pack activation. However in follow, after all, identical to if, if you’re wanting down through the squat, you’re extra prone to spherical your again as a result of the sometimes the remainder of the backbone follows the neck.

It’s pure to maneuver them into totally different instructions, so to, with the wrists and the elbows. If the wrist transfer in a single path, it’s very unnatural to maneuver the elbows in a special path or to not have them go in the identical kinda path. So if, sometimes if you’re rotating grip and making a impartial grip, then the elbows additionally naturally have a tendency to come back in the direction of the midline of the physique.

So basically your, you’re intuitively gonna tuck the elbow, which is extra shoulder. Yeah, it depends upon how your shoulder well being, Trigger I believe for most individuals, 45 levels or so is about optimum. The place you get a very good stretch, you need to, you wanna have that, horizontal kind abduction slash reflection.

So a guillotine press in that sense would truly be optimum. However you need to steadiness that with the potential for shoulder harm, which anecdotally tends to be rather a lot increased with guillotine model urgent then with the elbows a bit extra tucked. Yep. Yeah. I 

Mike: by no means significantly just like the guillotine press personally.

I do know some folks advocate it. I simply discovered as I received stronger, I discovered it not good to my shoulders. 

Menno: Yeah. Solely ever do these workouts for one true guillotine, 90 diploma nearly by no means do. However I solely ever do these workouts with tremendous excessive reps like Cecil Fur, after which it’s though it’s a comparatively injurious train and it goes at the least it’s tolerated fairly properly so long as you don’t go heavy.


Mike: yeah. You gotta do units of 30 although, , there’s that . However okay. That’s nice. That’s nice. On the workouts. Are you able to, earlier than we wrap up right here, are you able to talk about stretching in between units? Trigger that, that is also all the time a part of this complete dialogue and I see some folks aggressively stretching in between units.

Such as you had talked about going from the bench press to the cable fly and, actually attempting to maximise their relaxation time, so to talk. So 

Menno: there’s been two research which discovered that may improve muscle development. One had severe design flaw in that the reps have been equated between teams. And what folks don’t understand is that there’s additionally fairly convincing analysis that extreme static stretching earlier than your exercises, which is why it’s fallen in favor, reduces muscle development.

As a result of what static stretching primarily does is it teaches the nervous system that’s okay to chill out the muscle, which is kinda the alternative of what you need. So you recognize, for those who’re doing activation drills and static stretching, you’re telling your physique to reverse issues, proper? Your activation drills, they don’t work by the way in which most often, however they’re supposed that can assist you activate the muscle extra and due to this fact attain increased stage of doable exercise and get higher beneficial properties.

After which static stretching basically tells the muscle, Okay, chill out, don’t totally activate, simply chill. Let the lengthening occur and simply expertise the stretch as a result of it doesn’t lengthen the muscle as we on earlier, at the least not completely, not when it comes to muscle passive life. So doing that reduces muscle efficiency since you’re instructing the muscle to chill out fairly than activate.

It’s the alternative of an activation drill. And there may be direct analysis displaying that reduces energy improvement and muscle development. So when this new analysis got here out of static stretching, which is I believe 2017, the primary research which had. Critical design flaws, like I stated. And in 2019, one other one, each skilled people and there they discovered, if I’m not mistaken, it did assist muscle development and it appeared a bit higher managed, however they have been successfully not, this was final yr research and so they have been doing ca phrases, however then including a stretch after the set.

So principally ending the set after which including with plenty of stretch. However that’s like a drop set or simply including extra of the set proper or isometric contraction within the backside place. For one, it’s not gonna be totally passive and seconds. Yeah, simply including to the set after which discovered, okay, yeah, you possibly can stimulate some further muscle development doubtlessly that approach.

However then the research I discussed earlier from physique all from this yr discovered that in skilled people for the packs, it didn’t induce any further muscle development for energy improvement. So I believe for most people, for those who’re gonna do one thing like that, you possibly can simply do one other shed. Or if you’re tremendous time pressed, possibly you possibly can do a drop set or one thing.

Which I sometimes, not if I’d fairly do my reps or one thing else, however that’s one other subject in India. I don’t suppose that only a passive static stretch is gonna be the answer as a result of it would scale back muscle exercise and subsequent, and the analysis base for it’s not compelling in any respect. So I believe you’re a lot better off simply specializing in units that additionally produce energetic pressure fairly than, that’s stretching in between units and a I at present see little or no Yeah.

Utility of that. The place it really works in any respect in skilled people is to be decided as a result of it’s largely gonna be. SAR in collection, so making your muscle longer and that can’t occur after a sure level. And secondly, you’re actually banking purely once more on the media to per the passive pressure, the place in that very same time you possibly can have additionally been contributing energetic pressure.

Which most likely would’ve resulted in additional 

Mike: muscle development, and also you shortly commented on this, however set to set efficiency can drop too with among the stuff I’ve seen folks doing the place it’s like a minute or a minute and a half of aggressively stretching their packs, after which I don’t even know if there’s any further relaxation in between the units.

Perhaps there’s an additional 30 seconds after which they’re proper again to the bench press. And I haven’t completed that. Perhaps after I was youthful, I haven’t completed it shortly, so I assume I can’t say that I’ve tried it myself at the least just lately, however assured efficiency is gonna be worse on that subsequent set in comparison with simply resting.

And now after all you return to, okay, so what if you need to take weight off the bar? Or what if you’re getting a number of fewer reps per set now since you did that stretch, Now you need to weigh. You might need gotten from the stretching which is, as you’ve talked about, partly theoretical, unknown towards what we find out about.

You may have simply used heavier weight on that subsequent set or gotten three or 4 extra reps and that we all know issues. 

Menno: Precisely. It’s in lots of of those circumstances, it’s all the time, are you gonna financial institution on the speculative factor or are you gonna financial institution on what we all know for certain is nice? After which, yeah, let’s stick to, what we all know for certain.

After which possibly modify it barely fairly. Actually, you throw the infant out with the bathtub water. 

Mike: I’ve joked that a lot of efficient energy coaching is simply doing the identical boring workouts, variations of workouts, fundamental varieties of exercises eternally. That’s and I’m exaggerating somewhat bit for humor, however I believe there’s extra reality or that’s extra proper than unsuitable.

Menno: Yeah. I’d say as an educator, like for my PT course and stuff, I’d, I steer folks a away from complexity, at the least as a lot as I information them in the direction of, complexity in favor of for optimization. Yeah. 

Mike: Yep. That that’s every part that I had on the define right here for this dialogue.

We’ve touched on rather a lot. Is there something although that I haven’t requested you about or that you just simply had at the back of your head that you just wished to say earlier than we wrap up? 

Menno: I believe we lined the subject fairly 

Mike: properly. Yeah. Yeah, I believe it was nice. Thanks once more for doing it. And let’s wrap up then.

Let’s let folks know the place they’ll discover you, discover your work, your PT course. If there’s anything particularly that you really want everyone to find out about, let’s allow them to know. 

Menno: . Positive. Yeah. I’m on all social media, together with YouTube, so I’m doing much more video. Are you on? I’m on. Sure. Unbelievable.

I’m on TikTok. It’s not take, it’s not taking off tremendous properly but. It’s not my kind of core. It’s a must to get good at 

Mike: dancing and voice and voiceovers. 

Menno: I believe that’s the important thing. Yeah. That’s not taking place . However yeah I’m posting the identical kind of content material there. TikTok, I principally simply put up what I put up on YouTube copies.

And so yeah, YouTube is one thing that I believe I’m gonna be working much more on, extra video, In order that’s good and all. I nonetheless do all my regular social media. My publication is nice for folks that aren’t on it but, get like a tour of my hottest contents. My PT course at present bought out, however there’s one subsequent yr that’s nonetheless obtainable for PT certification.

And I put a, have a brand new account for the folks I are actually into, just like the extra hardcore analysis updates and the like, actually following the newest updates of every part. And yeah, the extra severe folks actually involved in positive tuning within the optimization and. A number of free stuff. My Instagram as regular.

Mike: Cool. And all of the hyperlinks shall be in present notes, however for people who find themselves simply listening, they’ll discover you in all of these locations by simply looking your title. 

Menno: My title, . Yep. Yep. 

Mike: Yeah, for those who put in Meno, he h e n s, it ought to pop up. However The remainder is E L M A N S, only for folks questioning easy methods to spell it.

Okay. Nice. Thanks once more for taking the time, Meno. I all the time take pleasure in these discussions and I stay up for the subsequent one.

Menno: Likewise, pleasure as all the time. 

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